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	<description>Fixing Minnesota&#039;s Broken Government     mnpatriots@mnpatriots.com</description>
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		<title>Comment on Sustainable Alternative Energy by admin</title>
		<link>http://mnpatriots.com/?p=237&#038;cpage=1#comment-380</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Aug 2010 18:07:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Organizing the alternative energy market granting free and unbridled access to the energy &#039;grids&#039; is the only way to proceed.  The statutes Holly referenced are clear evidence of the denial of access.  These monopolies are single-mindedly devoted to the protection of their ability to gouge the public with the legislature&#039;s blessing.

Milton Friedman used far fewer words than I to express the importance of this noble notion.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWsx1X8PV_A&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWsx1X8PV_A&lt;/a&gt;

MAK, Bly, and others are attempting to proceed in the right direction, but they allowed the energy monopolies to construct the legislation.  They are trying act as those &quot;angels&quot; foolishly believing they are wiser than the individuals and business interests willing to unleash time, blood, and treasure, to the problems facing us.  What we need is to tear down the walls blocking progress and deny these powerful (pun intended) organizations of their clearly selfish self-interest at the expense of society.  Stop protecting the monopoly and the market will flourish with unbridled activity.

When I hear some candidate making sense, I&#039;ll get behind them and push.  Meanwhile, when I hear rhetoric that comes straight out of a Marxist textbook, I will fight it with all the energy these fingers can muster!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Organizing the alternative energy market granting free and unbridled access to the energy &#8216;grids&#8217; is the only way to proceed.  The statutes Holly referenced are clear evidence of the denial of access.  These monopolies are single-mindedly devoted to the protection of their ability to gouge the public with the legislature&#8217;s blessing.</p>
<p>Milton Friedman used far fewer words than I to express the importance of this noble notion.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWsx1X8PV_A" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWsx1X8PV_A</a></p>
<p>MAK, Bly, and others are attempting to proceed in the right direction, but they allowed the energy monopolies to construct the legislation.  They are trying act as those &#8220;angels&#8221; foolishly believing they are wiser than the individuals and business interests willing to unleash time, blood, and treasure, to the problems facing us.  What we need is to tear down the walls blocking progress and deny these powerful (pun intended) organizations of their clearly selfish self-interest at the expense of society.  Stop protecting the monopoly and the market will flourish with unbridled activity.</p>
<p>When I hear some candidate making sense, I&#8217;ll get behind them and push.  Meanwhile, when I hear rhetoric that comes straight out of a Marxist textbook, I will fight it with all the energy these fingers can muster!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Sustainable Alternative Energy by admin</title>
		<link>http://mnpatriots.com/?p=237&#038;cpage=1#comment-365</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Aug 2010 18:17:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the comment, and the links.  Unfortunately the statute you cite is quite limited in scope.  You are prohibited from participating, as am I.  Why?  Because &#039;we&#039; cannot meet the criteria.  This is designed for Coop utilities to control their futures.  They don&#039;t want competition, they want control.  And this paper trail gives them just that.  It&#039;s not designed for Minnesotan&#039;s to take on the challenge.  What you are pointing to is what people in the energy business are referring to as the Minnesota paperwork nightmare.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the comment, and the links.  Unfortunately the statute you cite is quite limited in scope.  You are prohibited from participating, as am I.  Why?  Because &#8216;we&#8217; cannot meet the criteria.  This is designed for Coop utilities to control their futures.  They don&#8217;t want competition, they want control.  And this paper trail gives them just that.  It&#8217;s not designed for Minnesotan&#8217;s to take on the challenge.  What you are pointing to is what people in the energy business are referring to as the Minnesota paperwork nightmare.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Sustainable Alternative Energy by Holly Cairns</title>
		<link>http://mnpatriots.com/?p=237&#038;cpage=1#comment-362</link>
		<dc:creator>Holly Cairns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Aug 2010 15:44:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Ford!  IMO, the feed-in tariff is an essential part of our transfer to alternative energy.  MAK&#039;s co-worker, Democrat Rep. David Bly, worked tirelessly on this for years.  Minnesota is listed as being an alternative energy producing friendly state.  

Here&#039;s information on what Rep. David Bly proposed:
http://sustainablecommunitysolutions.com/2008/03/04/rep-blys-feed-in-tariff-legislation-gets-first-hearing/

Here&#039;s more:
https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/?id=216B.1612</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Ford!  IMO, the feed-in tariff is an essential part of our transfer to alternative energy.  MAK&#8217;s co-worker, Democrat Rep. David Bly, worked tirelessly on this for years.  Minnesota is listed as being an alternative energy producing friendly state.  </p>
<p>Here&#8217;s information on what Rep. David Bly proposed:<br />
<a href="http://sustainablecommunitysolutions.com/2008/03/04/rep-blys-feed-in-tariff-legislation-gets-first-hearing/" rel="nofollow">http://sustainablecommunitysolutions.com/2008/03/04/rep-blys-feed-in-tariff-legislation-gets-first-hearing/</a></p>
<p>Here&#8217;s more:<br />
<a href="https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/?id=216B.1612" rel="nofollow">https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/?id=216B.1612</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Franchise Tax is Eliminating Jobs in Minnesota by Ford</title>
		<link>http://mnpatriots.com/?p=220&#038;cpage=1#comment-321</link>
		<dc:creator>Ford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jul 2010 02:42:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CNBC did a study of the states.  One category was &quot;Cost of Doing Business - 2010&quot;.  So how did MN fare?

http://www.cnbc.com/id/37516039/

How about 31st on the list!  It&#039;s &quot;Workforce&quot; analysis brought us in at #34!  The study cited, in part, the tendency towards collective bargaining.

Don&#039;t shoot the messenger folks.  I&#039;m just sayin&#039;......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CNBC did a study of the states.  One category was &#8220;Cost of Doing Business &#8211; 2010&#8243;.  So how did MN fare?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cnbc.com/id/37516039/" rel="nofollow">http://www.cnbc.com/id/37516039/</a></p>
<p>How about 31st on the list!  It&#8217;s &#8220;Workforce&#8221; analysis brought us in at #34!  The study cited, in part, the tendency towards collective bargaining.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t shoot the messenger folks.  I&#8217;m just sayin&#8217;&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Franchise Tax is Eliminating Jobs in Minnesota by admin</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jun 2010 21:38:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree on Glass Steagull and interstate banking changing the face of banking in MN more than taxes.  It simultaneously ripped the heart and soul out of the Community Reinvestment Act as well, which has been decimating the rural market place in MN ever since.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree on Glass Steagull and interstate banking changing the face of banking in MN more than taxes.  It simultaneously ripped the heart and soul out of the Community Reinvestment Act as well, which has been decimating the rural market place in MN ever since.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Franchise Tax is Eliminating Jobs in Minnesota by Charlie Quimby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charlie Quimby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jun 2010 19:31:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Or a year&#039;s project. There are some fairly elaborate studies comparing states&#039; total tax burdens that appear inconclusive. (Corporate franchise tax is only one way corporations end up paying taxes.) At Growth &amp; Justice, we&#039;re currently doing on a literature review to see what light can be cast on this.

Your example is instructive, though. Some operations (call centers and similar) don&#039;t require the same specialized skills and physical location to transportation and resources that certain manufacturing does — and did even more a few decades ago. This makes them more portable and able to take advantage of lower labor rates, cheap land and low taxes or bribes. Again, not the only reasons to relocate.

Changes in interstate banking rules and repeal of Glass Steagull probably had a bigger impact in that industry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or a year&#8217;s project. There are some fairly elaborate studies comparing states&#8217; total tax burdens that appear inconclusive. (Corporate franchise tax is only one way corporations end up paying taxes.) At Growth &amp; Justice, we&#8217;re currently doing on a literature review to see what light can be cast on this.</p>
<p>Your example is instructive, though. Some operations (call centers and similar) don&#8217;t require the same specialized skills and physical location to transportation and resources that certain manufacturing does — and did even more a few decades ago. This makes them more portable and able to take advantage of lower labor rates, cheap land and low taxes or bribes. Again, not the only reasons to relocate.</p>
<p>Changes in interstate banking rules and repeal of Glass Steagull probably had a bigger impact in that industry.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Franchise Tax is Eliminating Jobs in Minnesota by Admin</title>
		<link>http://mnpatriots.com/?p=220&#038;cpage=1#comment-204</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jun 2010 18:34:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I worked for Norwest in the late 70s through the late 80s.  I watched them open up the mortgage lending facility in DesMoines, employed thousands, in a state where the rate was less the 1/2 that of MN.  That facility was later sold to GM and is now the GMAC facility.  Credit ops were moved from Minnesota to Sioux Falls and Omaha--both tax havens by comparison to MN&#039;s 12% rate at the time.  Sioux Falls as a city has exploded in size during the same period of MN&#039;s aggressive tax policy.  Are these all coincidences?

It is safe to argue that MN&#039;s tax policy towards business has played a role in the last 30 years.  Perhaps a valid measure would be to evaluate the US business community as a whole, and MN as a part, to see if MN has enjoyed the same or similar fate as the rest of the country.  Sounds like another weekend project!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I worked for Norwest in the late 70s through the late 80s.  I watched them open up the mortgage lending facility in DesMoines, employed thousands, in a state where the rate was less the 1/2 that of MN.  That facility was later sold to GM and is now the GMAC facility.  Credit ops were moved from Minnesota to Sioux Falls and Omaha&#8211;both tax havens by comparison to MN&#8217;s 12% rate at the time.  Sioux Falls as a city has exploded in size during the same period of MN&#8217;s aggressive tax policy.  Are these all coincidences?</p>
<p>It is safe to argue that MN&#8217;s tax policy towards business has played a role in the last 30 years.  Perhaps a valid measure would be to evaluate the US business community as a whole, and MN as a part, to see if MN has enjoyed the same or similar fate as the rest of the country.  Sounds like another weekend project!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Franchise Tax is Eliminating Jobs in Minnesota by Charlie Quimby</title>
		<link>http://mnpatriots.com/?p=220&#038;cpage=1#comment-203</link>
		<dc:creator>Charlie Quimby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jun 2010 17:31:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Such connections are very difficult to establish and the economics literature has not come up with a clear-cut answer. All the more reason to avoid layering unproven and politically loaded statements about effects on your explanation of how the tax operates.

This is not a critique of your explanation, which I appreciate. It&#039;s a caution to readers who may run with it in an unproven direction.

I worked for Honeywell in the late seventies through the late eighties and retained them as an annual report client for a couple years after the Allied-Signal &quot;merger,&quot; when the corporate HQ moved to New Jersey, another high tax state. I can&#039;t recall hearing a substantive comment about taxes, let alone state taxes, when I interviewed corporate and divisional leaders about their financial results.

I could go into a number of reasons why Honeywell&#039;s manufacturing plants are not as extensive here as they once were, including divestiture of the computer, semi-conductor and defense businesses, the labor costs in other countries (Mexico, China, etc.), acquisition of companies with facilities in other states, and a global market that favored local production over exporting from the U.S.

I&#039;d say 3M, another global company, operated under many of the same forces. For example, magnetic media for data storage is a dead industry today.

Norwest and Northwest, like Honeywell, moved headquarters from here because of mergers, but their operations remain here. Since two of the three are headquartered in high-tax states, it hardly supports the tax argument.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Such connections are very difficult to establish and the economics literature has not come up with a clear-cut answer. All the more reason to avoid layering unproven and politically loaded statements about effects on your explanation of how the tax operates.</p>
<p>This is not a critique of your explanation, which I appreciate. It&#8217;s a caution to readers who may run with it in an unproven direction.</p>
<p>I worked for Honeywell in the late seventies through the late eighties and retained them as an annual report client for a couple years after the Allied-Signal &#8220;merger,&#8221; when the corporate HQ moved to New Jersey, another high tax state. I can&#8217;t recall hearing a substantive comment about taxes, let alone state taxes, when I interviewed corporate and divisional leaders about their financial results.</p>
<p>I could go into a number of reasons why Honeywell&#8217;s manufacturing plants are not as extensive here as they once were, including divestiture of the computer, semi-conductor and defense businesses, the labor costs in other countries (Mexico, China, etc.), acquisition of companies with facilities in other states, and a global market that favored local production over exporting from the U.S.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d say 3M, another global company, operated under many of the same forces. For example, magnetic media for data storage is a dead industry today.</p>
<p>Norwest and Northwest, like Honeywell, moved headquarters from here because of mergers, but their operations remain here. Since two of the three are headquartered in high-tax states, it hardly supports the tax argument.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Franchise Tax is Eliminating Jobs in Minnesota by admin</title>
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		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jun 2010 16:08:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Charlie,

Your point is well taken.  A &quot;study&quot; would have to measure a company&#039;s motivation for expanding a plant in Sioux Falls over a plant in Minnesota.  The study would also have to examine every incident since 1981.  This would be very difficult to accomplish accurately.

Memory serves me well when it comes to remembering the vast manufacturing facilities of Honeywell--gone today.  And the loss of Northwest Air to Delta.  The various 3M plants--gone today.  Norwest headquarters--gone.  Union membership is down--not because they are less popular, but because the jobs are gone.  The franchise tax plays a role, but your questioning as to whether it is &#039;the reason&#039; is a matter for debate.

It is fair to say that the franchise tax contributed to the attrition, but perhaps is only a partial reason.  Thailand has taken loads of jobs out of Minnesota.  And the federal tax may be playing a more significant role than MN&#039;s franchise tax.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charlie,</p>
<p>Your point is well taken.  A &#8220;study&#8221; would have to measure a company&#8217;s motivation for expanding a plant in Sioux Falls over a plant in Minnesota.  The study would also have to examine every incident since 1981.  This would be very difficult to accomplish accurately.</p>
<p>Memory serves me well when it comes to remembering the vast manufacturing facilities of Honeywell&#8211;gone today.  And the loss of Northwest Air to Delta.  The various 3M plants&#8211;gone today.  Norwest headquarters&#8211;gone.  Union membership is down&#8211;not because they are less popular, but because the jobs are gone.  The franchise tax plays a role, but your questioning as to whether it is &#8216;the reason&#8217; is a matter for debate.</p>
<p>It is fair to say that the franchise tax contributed to the attrition, but perhaps is only a partial reason.  Thailand has taken loads of jobs out of Minnesota.  And the federal tax may be playing a more significant role than MN&#8217;s franchise tax.</p>
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